It is busy with the interruption microphone during Wilders’ speaking time.
Jetten against Wilders: “You have to take responsibility” Jetten notes that the NCTV says that “the words of politicians matter,” he tells Wilders. “Let’s take a look at those words. Mr. Wilders mentions journalists rigid of the Richel, judge politically biased and the House of Representatives a fake parliament. Ministers are swallowed who proudly wore a prince flag”.
Former PVV minister Reinette Klever (Foreign Trade) also once carried a pin of the Prinsenvlag when she was still a member of parliament. She later said that it had a family sign for her, given the role of her family in the Eighty Years’ War. But the prince flag is now mainly associated with a symbol of the NSB.
According to Jetten, Wilders also calls on to fight. He refers to last week’s general political considerations. Wilders then said: “Do we choose to sink further into the swamp with left-liberal multiculturalism, or are we finally fighting back?”
Just like Timmermans, Jetten draws attention to the words that Wilders protests against AZCs used. For example, Wilders said in Helmond that the protesters there “should not accept” the decision of the mayor. “You will have to take responsibility,” says Jetten.
Wilders points out that he naturally rejects violence. But according to him, extremism is best tackled “by not taking turns against Mr Wilders and showing your own inability.”
Wilders: ‘Go away with your NCTV’ CDA leader Bontenbal calls the debate style of PVV leader Wilders polarizing. “We want to depoles.” Bontenbal quotes a report from the NCTV, whereby the terror fighter warns of the extreme right -wing violence. “Most incidents seem to be repeatedly traced back to the political and social fuss that exists in the Netherlands about the arrival and reception of asylum seekers,” writes the service in a report last June.
Bontenbal wants to know Van Wilders if he feels responsible. That is asking about the well -known path of the CDA. Because Wilders is not known to reflect or to put on the fine rug for fierce statements. “Go away with your NCTV,” says Wilders. “The people on the street have nothing to do with an NCTV.” Wilders’ responsibility is something to do about immigration, he says. “The Netherlands is crazy.”
Wilders fiercely lashes out to D66 and GL-PvdA Wilders is second and after having briefly distanced himself from the riots, he fiercely lashes out to D66 and GL-PVDA. According to him, they would “want to hit a political salad” from the events. He mentions a number of incidents where, according to him, the parties were “silent”, such as the pro-Palestinian demonstrations at universities, but that is not true. The parties did respond to this at the time.
This also ensures that Jetten and Timmermans rush to the interruption microphone to put that right. Wilders continues to repeat that they were not there, and starts a reasoning by saying “before Mr Timmermans is starting to blaze again”. Those words are reason for Chamber President Martin Bosma to intervene.
D66, GL-PvdA and PvdD also ask Bosma to intervene “if lies are told”. “The chairman must help to guard that no unsafe things are being done,” says Ouwehand, for example, hinting in the bright tone and Woorders of Wilders just.
DENK leader Van Baarle already announces a motion of no confidence against outgoing minister Foort van Oosten (Justice and Security).
Ouwehand: ‘Van der Plas participates in the Ophiterij by lying’ BBB leader Van der Plas speaks out against the violence, but immediately says the concerns of people about the lack of homes and the number of asylum seekers who come to the Netherlands.
According to Ouwehand (PvdD), Van der Plas has to look at himself. Her party “lied” against the farmers about the nitrogen problem. “Not surprising that they get angry.” Van der Plas is indignant. “I’m not going to participate anymore, but I’m going to answer this,” she says. “Someone chooses to grab a stone and set fire to a police car. Those are individual choices.”
Ouwehand quotes Auschwitz survivor Primo Levi: “It happened and it can happen again,” said the Jewish-Italian writer. “People can be excited and walk behind Charlatans,” warns Ouwehand. “Van der Plas participates in the Ophiterij by lying.”
Van der Plas strongly denies that she is also responsible for the violence. She calls that accusation “link”.
Minister Van Oosten is questioned by the press while walking towards the plenary room.
NSC and DENK cannot find each other in debate about polarization NSC leader Eddy van Hijum comes to the fore to ask Van Baarle for reflection. It is a broader question “how we deal with each other”, says Van Hijum, who asks the think leader to reflect on it himself. For example when it comes to his statement to the former NSC-Buitenlandminister Caspar Veldkamp. But also in the debate that is being conducted, the dichotomy in the room becomes clear again.
Because what follows is that Van Baarle van Hijum points out that it was NSC who went into a cabinet with the PVV and the ministers criticized by DENK. “If there is one normalizer of the extreme right, then it is the NSC group!” Van Hijum repeats that all parties in the Chamber have to reflect, but according to Van Baarle, NSC has no right to point out polarization.
Think announces the motion of no confidence against Justice Minister Van Oosten DENK-Leader Van Baarle may be the first to speak to the debate. “After eighty years, fascists were opened through our streets again,” he begins. “They chanted ‘Sieg Heil’ and did the Hitler salute.”
Van Baarle focuses his dissatisfaction on Justice Minister Van Oosten. “He was not even willing to call a Nazi, a Nazi,” says Van Baarle. The VVD minister initially did not want to say this week which corner the violence of Saturday came to the Malieveld. He came back to that later. Terror fighter NCTV had just advised to state that it was the extreme right -wing violence.
Van Baarle knows enough despite the turn of Van Oosten. “Then you are unsuitable as Minister of Justice.” He already announces a motion of no confidence. The PVV of Wilders is also jointly responsible here according to the think leader. “The seeds are being planted. Here in the room. By Wilders.”
The debate will start at 10.15 am and is planned for 6.30 pm tonight for the time being. First is the word to think leader Stephan van Baarle. He applied for the debate. All parties have put their party leader forward to speak today. That is common with this type of current debates.
Pamphlet against violence not signed by left -wing parties parties disagree about a joint statement to condemn the extreme right -wing violence. Left -wing parties do not want to be with right -wing parties such as FVD and PVV under the pamphlet of the ChristenUnie.
“The violence on the Malieveld is unacceptable,” heads the pamphlet. “We convince the right-wing extremist violence,” is further down the text.
GroenLinks-PvdA, D66, SP, Party for the Animals and DENK call it unbelievable that FVD and PVV are also under the statement. Member of Parliament Jan Paternotte of D66 believes that in this way conspiracy theories of Gideon van Meijeren (FVD) that the extreme left antifa and the police would have provoked the violence, are laundered. Earlier statements from PVV leader Geert Wilders about not accepting democratic decisions are a reason not to sign.
GroenLinks-PvdA joins the words of Paternotte and calls it unbelievable. “After years of incorporating and setting up groups of people, it is not enough to condemn the extreme right -wing political violence. Then the distribution of ideas that lead to violence must be stopped.”
For PvdD trust in the air is the news that the minister did not initially follow the advice of the NCTV, causes annoyance to several parties.
“The question of trust is on the table,” said PvdD leader Esther Ouwehand yesterday on X. DENK-foreman Stephan van Baarle finds it “unsuitable and the position of Minister unworthy” if you “willingly and know about Nazis and extreme right rig”.
If a motion of no confidence follows, then the chance is still small that it will get a majority.
NCTV had advised riots immediately as ‘extreme right’ to label the initially cautious Minister of Oosten had received advice from the NCTV not only to “racer, rig or hooligans, without naming the underlying right-wing extremist ideas”.
Otherwise, no “complete picture of reality” would be sketched and right-wing extremist ideas would not be protected as a result, “but even further normalized”, it can be read in the advice published on Wednesday evening.
The Hague had massive riots with ‘extreme violence’ in demonstration not expected The municipality of The Hague did not expect that the demonstration against the asylum policy on the Malieveld would result in violence, riots and destructions on Saturday. There were, however, “soft signals” of malicious people, Mayor Jan van Zanen writes to the city council on Wednesday.
Furious reactions in politics, but also mutual annoyance politicians react with horror at the events in The Hague. Outgoing Prime Minister Dick Schoof called the riots “performs unacceptable” and similar sounds also came from other politicians. But D66 leader Rob Jetten and GL-PVDA leader Frans Timmermans also pointed out that they think that the politics that are incurred also has a role in this, and in particular their colleague Geert Wilders.
According to Jetten, the rioters used slogans from Wilders. “Then it is up to all democratic forces to say: we will not pick this,” says Jetten. He also spoke of “political violence”, partly due to the extreme right -wing expressions and Nazi symbolism that could be seen during the demonstration.
Minister Eelco Heinen (Finance) said that the events should not be made politically as far as he is concerned. Responsible Minister Foort van Oosten (Justice) was also very cautious in the first instance, to the annoyance of the opposition parties in the Chamber. Later Van Oosten returned to his words: he found himself “too star” and still spoke of “extreme right -wing rioters”.
What happened in The Hague? On the Malieveld in The Hague, around 3,500 people came together on Saturday to protest against the asylum policy, an initiative of the 26-year-old ‘Els Right’. But soon after the start of the demonstration, the atmosphere turns: a group of about 1,500 people occupies the A12, after which it also gets out of hand on the Malieveld itself. The rioters attack the police and the press, and then put in the city center of The Hague to address destruction to, among others, the party office of D66 and is an attempt to enter the Binnenhof.
Dozens of people were arrested. As far as we know, four agents and seven journalists (slightly) were injured, as well as a catering employee who mediated between a customer and a rioter.
It is busy at the interruption microphone defling Wilders’ speaking time.
Jetten to Wilders: ‘You must take responsibility’ Jetten notes that the nctv says that “the words of politicians matter,” he says to Wilders. “Let’s take a look at those words. Mr. Wilders calls journalists scum of the earth, Judges politically preached and the house of representatives a fake parliament. Ministers are Being sworn in who proudly wore a prince’s flag.”
Former PVV Minister Reinette Klever (Foreign Trade) also Once Wore A Badge of the Prince’s Flag When She was Still A Member of Parliament. She later Said Herself that it had a Family Meaning for Her, Given the Role of Her Family in the Eighty Years’ War. But the Prince’s Flag is now mainly associated with a symbol of the nsb.
Accordance to Jetten, Wilders is also Calling for A Fight. The refers to the general political reflections of last week. Wilders Then Said: “Do we Choose to Sink Further Into the Swamp With Liberal Multiculturalism, or do we finally fight back?”
Jetten, Like Timmermans, Calls Attention to the Words Wilders Used in Protests Against Asylum Centers. For Example, Wilders Said in Helmond That The Demonstrators There “Should Not Accept” The Mayor’s Decision. “You will have to take responsibility,” Jetten Believe.
Wilders Points Out That He Naturally Condemns Violence. But Extremism, accordance to him, is best tackled “by not yelling at Mr. Wilders in Turn and Flaunting your own Inability.”
Wilders: ‘Get Away with your NCTV’ CDA Leader Bontenbal Calls the Debate Style of PVV Leader Wilders Polariazing. “We want to depoliticize.” Bontenbal quotes a report from the NCTV, in which the counter-terrorism expert Warns of Far-Right Violence. “Most incidents appear to be largely attributable to the political and social uprar that exists in the Netherlands about the arrival and reception of asylum seekers,” the service wrote in a report last June.
Bontenbal Wants To Know From Wilders Whether He Feels Responsible. That is Asking for the Well-Known Road of the CDA Member. Because Wilders is not Known for Reflecting or Putting on the Sackcloth for Harsh Statements. “Get away with your nctv,” Wilders Says. “The People on the Street Have Nothing to Do With An NCTV.” Wilders’ Responsibility is to do something about immigration, he says. “The Netherlands is sick of it.”
Wilders Lashes Out at D66 and GL-Pvda Wilders Takes The Floor As The Second Speaker and After Letterly Distancing himself from the Riots, He Lashes Out At D66 and GL-PvdA. Accordance to him, they would “want to make political capital” from the events. He mentions a number of incidents where, accordance to him, the parties were “dead silent”, Such as the pro-Palestinian demonstrations at universities, but that is not true. The Parties Did Respond To That At The Time.
That also Ensures that Jetten and Timmermans Rush To The Interruption Microphone to Rectify That. Wilders keeps repeating that they were not there, and starts a reasoning by saying “Before Mr. Timmermans Starts Bleating Again”. Those words are reason for speaker martin bosma to intervene.
D66, GL-PvdA and PvdD also Ask Bosma to Intervene “When Lies Are Told”. “The Chairman must help Ensure That No Unsafe Things Are Done,” Says Ouwehand, For Example, Hinting at Wilders’ Fierce Tone and Words Just Now.
Think Leader of Baarle Already Announces A Motion of No Confidence Against Outgoing Minister Foort van Oosten (Justice and Security).
Ouwehand: ‘Van der Plas is participating in the incitement by Lyping’ BBB Leader van der Plas Speaks Out Against the Violence, But Immediately After that Says She Understands People’s Conns about the Lack of Housing and the Number of Asylum.
Accordance to Ouwehand (PvdD), Van der Plas Should Mainly Look at Herself. Her party “song” to the farmers about the nitrogen problem. “No wonder they get angry.” Van der Plas is Outraged. “I’m not going to participate in this anymore, but I am going to answar it,” She says. “Someone Chooses to Pick Up A Stone and Set A Police Car on Fire. Those Are Individual Choices.”
Ouwehand quotes Auschwitz Survivor Primo Levi: “It happened and it can happen again,” Said the Jewish-Italian Writer. “People can be incited and follow charlatans,” Ouwehand Warns. “Van der Plas is participating in the incitement by Lying.”
Van der Plas Firmly Denies That She is also Responsible for the Violence. She calls that accusation “creepy”.
Minister Van Oosten is Questioned by the Press as He Walks Towards The Plenary Hall.
NSC and think Cannot Find Each Other in a Debate About Polariazation NSC Leader Eddy van Hijum Comes Forward to Ask from Baarle for Reflection. It is a Broader Question “How we deal with each other”, Van Hijum Believes, who Asks the think leader to reflect on that himself. For Example, When it comes to his statement to Former NSC Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp. But also in the debate that is conducted there, The Division in the House Becomes Clear Again.
Because What Follows is that of Baarle Points Out To Hijum That It was the NSC that Went Into A Cabinet with the PVV and the Ministers Heavily Criticized by DENK. “If there is one normalizer of the far right, it is the nsc faction!” Van Hijum repeats that all parties in the house must reflect, but accordance to from Baarle, NSC Has No Right to Point to Polariazation.
Think Announces Motion of No Confidence Against Justice Minister Van Oosten Think Leader Van Baarle is Allowed to Speak First as the Applicant for the Debate. “After eighty years, fascists were again walking openly through our streets,” he’s in. “They chanted ‘sieg Heil’ and Did the Hitler Salute.”
Van Baarle Directs His Displeasure at Justice Minister Van Oosten. “He was just as willing to call a Nazi a Nazi,” Says van Baarle. The VVD minister initially did not because to say this week where the violence on the malieveld on Saturday came from. Hey later came back to that. Counter-terrorism expert NCTV had advised to mention that it was far-right violence.
Van Baarle Knows Enough Despite of Oosten’s Turnaround. “Then you are unsuitable as Minister of Justice.” He already announces a motion of no confidence. Accordance to the think leader, The PVV of Wilders is also Jointly Responsible here. “The Seeds are planted. Here in the house. By Wilders.”
The Debate Will starts at 10:15 AM and is Currently Scheduled Until 6:30 pm Tonight. First, Stephan van Baarle, Leader or Think, Will Speak. He requested the debate. All parties have put Forward Their Leader to Speak Today. That is customary in this type of topical debates.
Pamphlet Against Violence Not Signed by Left-Wing Parties Parties Do Not Agree on a Joint Statement To Condemn Far-Right Violence. Left-wing parties do not because to be under the ChristenUnie Pamphlet with right-wing parties Such as fvd and PVV.
“The Violence on the Malieveld is unacceptable,” The Pamphlet Heads. “We Strongly Condemn the Right-Wing Extremist Violence,” The Text Continues.
GroenLinks-PvdA, D66, SP, Party for the Animals and think call it unbelievable that fvd and PVV are also under the statement. Member of Parliament Jan Paternotte of D66 Believes That Way Conspiracy Theories of Gideon van Meijeren (FvD) That the Far-Left Antifa and the Police would have provoked the violence are whitewashed. Earlier Statements by PVV Leader Geert Wilders About Not Accepting Democratic Decisions are also a reason not to sign.
GroenLinks-Pvda Joins the Words of Paternotte and Calls It Unbelievable. “After years of inciting and setting up Groups of People, it is not enough to condemn far-right political political violence. Then the spreading of the ideas that lead to the violence must be stopped.”
A Question of Confidence Hangs in the Air for PvdD the news that the minister initially Did Not Follow the Advice of the NCTV is Causing Annoyance Among Several Parties.
“A Question of Confidence is on the table,” Said PvdD Leader Esther Ouwehand on X. Think Leader Stephan Van Baarle Believes It is “Unsuitable and Unworthy of the Position of Minister” IF You “Knowingly and Willingly Remain Silent and Far-Rightt.”
Should a motion of no confidence follow, The Chance is still small that it will get a majority.
NCTV had advised to immedialy label riots as ‘far right’ the initial cautious minister of Oosten had recedived advice from the nctv not only to speak of “rioters, thugs or hooligans, without mentioning the underlying right-wing extremist ideas”.
Otherwise, no “complete picture of reality” would be sketched and right-wing extremist ideas would be therefore not be problematized, “but even further normalized”, can be read in the advice published on Wednesday Evening.
The HAGUE DID not Expect Massive Riots with ‘Extreme Violence’ Duration Demonstration The Municipality of the Hague Did Not Expect That The Demonstration Against The Asylum Policy On The Malieveld on Saturday would Turn Into Violence, Roles and Destruction. However, there were “soft signals” from malicious parties, writes Mayor Jan van Zanen to the Municipal Council on Wednesday.
Angry Reactions in Politics, But also Mutual Annoyance Politicians React with horror to the events in the Hague. Outgoing Prime Minister Dick Sheaf Called the Riots “Completely Unacceptable” and Similar Sounds also Came From Other Politicians. But D66 Leader Rob Jetten and GL-PVDA LEADER Frans Timmermans also Pointed Out That The According to Theme Inflammatory Politics also Play a Role in this, and in Privular Their Colleague Geert Wilders.
Accordance to Jetten, The Rioters Used Slogans From Wilders. “Then it is up to all democratic forces to say: We will not accept this,” Said Jetten. Hey also spoke of “political violence”, partly because of the far-right expressions and nazi symbolism that could be so-during the demonstration.
Minister Eelco Heinen (Finance) then Said that the events should not be politicized as far as he was a group. Also Responsible Minister Foort van Oosten (Justice) was initially very reluctant, to the annoyance of the opposition parties in the house. Later from eastern Back on His Words: he found himself “Too Rigid” and Did speak of “Far-Right Rioters”.
What happened in The Hague? On the Malieveld in the Hague, about 3,500 people gathered on Saturday to protest Against the Asylum Policy, an Initiative of 26-Year-old ‘Els Right’. But soon after the start of the demonstration, The Atmosphere Changes: A Group of About 1,500 People Occupies the A12, After which it also gets out of hand on the Malieveld itself. The Rioters Attack Police and Press, and then Move Into The Center of the Hague to Cause Destruction to, Among Other Things, The Party Office of D66 and An Attempt is Made To Enter The Binnenhof.
Boxes of People Were arrested. As far as Known, Four Police Officers and Seven Journalists Were (SLIGHTLY) JURDED, AS well as a Catering Employee Who Mediated Between A Customer and A Rioter.