Good day and welcome to our live blog! Here we will keep you informed of the debate in the Lower House about the political situation that has arisen after the departure of NSC from the outgoing cabinet.
18 minutes ago
Schoof sees no room for glue attempt with NSC Bikker (CU), just like D66 and SGP, had hoped for a glue attempt with NSC. She fears more chaos differently. “This is very turbulent water with a small boat.”
But Schoof does not think that that is still an option, although he also sees that the situation has not become easier. The outgoing Prime Minister says that attempts to persuade the remaining NSC ministers to come back to nothing from their decision. “I didn’t feel any room, not even to take the time to think about it.”
32 minutes ago
Schoof and Deputy Prime Minister Sophie Hermans (VVD). Deputy Prime Minister Mona Keijzer is present on behalf of the BBB.
34 minutes ago
Shovel felt ‘no space’ for glue attempt the question of whether the cabinet could have held together on Friday, a lot is being asked. But according to Schoof there was “no space” for that. “I had to conclude that the choice of NSC was final and that there was no room for reconsideration,” says Schoof.
The conversations that followed the following days did not make the situation look differently. “My conclusion is that the line that I told the room last night was the only and fastest way to get a few more things done.” In that letter Schoof wrote that VVD and BBB themselves are going to search for the filling of the released NSC cabinet posts. He also sees nothing in designating a scout, although it is up to the Chamber to decide on that.
40 minutes ago
Schoof makes distribution of ministries known Schoof Schoof announces the distribution of the NSC portfolios. The VVD receives Foreign Affairs, Public Health and Social Affairs. BBB receives education and the Interior. The names follow at a later time, says the prime minister. “They are announced as soon as possible.” This also applies to the distribution and interpretation of the State Secretariats.
47 minutes ago
Schoof: ‘Cabinet fits restraint’ repeats the words he has already pronounced a lot in recent days: the departure of NSC is “more than a shame”. He also indicates that the cabinet now has to look for majorities per topic and per debate.
Because of the departure of PVV in June, that was also the case, but due to the departure of NSC the basis of the cabinet has become even narrower. “In that sense, the government fits restraint,” says Schoof. According to him, important files, such as nitrogen, living and asylum, should not stand still.
53 minutes ago
The debate has started again! The floor is to outgoing Prime Minister Dick Schoof, who will answer the questions that the MPs have asked.
1 hour ago
The debate is now being suspended for lunch. At 2.30 pm the floor is on the outgoing cabinet.
1 hour ago
Timmermans: “Words of Yesilgöz are far away from her actions” “The VVD has the appearance,” Timmermans (GL-PvdA) told Yesilgöz. Because although Yesilgöz says that her views are close to those of other parties that want to tackle Israel or help the Gazans, the VVD has so far always votes against motions that actually want to do something.
Such as the temporary medical evacuations of seriously injured or sick Gazan children to help them in the Netherlands. Or a arms embargo against Israel. And also to explain the entire Netanyahu government to persona non grata. “The VVD voted against everything,” says Timmermans. “The words of Yesilgöz are far away from her actions. And then I say it neatly.” But Yesilgöz stays: “The parties are pretty close together.”
2 hours ago
VVD against scout, is open to experienced directors Yesilgöz, as her party previously indicated, sees little in the D66 plan to appoint a scout. An explorer would delay and ultimately says that we have to do it with the parties who have put a signature under the coalition agreement is her reasoning.
She thinks it is important that experienced drivers will be in the cabinet on behalf of the VVD and BBB. “If Mr Jetten says:” I have good people. “Call them!”
2 hours ago
Much unclear about Israel position VVD there is much to do about where VVD is exactly compared to extra sanctions against Israel. Last week the party voted against a D66 motion in which it is called “to ensure legislation as soon as possible that prohibits import, sale and promotion of goods and services from illegal settlements in occupied Palestinian territory in the Netherlands”. With the support of the VVD, this call had had a majority and the cabinet should therefore come up with extra sanctions.
But the VVD came with its own motion. It was suggested to take measures “in a European context or with a coalition of like -minded countries”. With the addition to “working simultaneously in national legislation as an alternative for when a European agreement is not made.” This motion also received no majority.
The same calls, but the parties who supported the D66 proposal think the VVD plan is too lean. “A cloth for bleeding,” Van Vroonhoven said about it. “We would like an import ban of all illegal settlements,” said Yesilgöz.
The question is whether there will now be a new motion that can count on a majority, or whether the impasse remains where the parties only say they want to take extra national sanctions against Israel, but there is no call from the Chamber that can count on a majority.
2 hours ago
Yesilgöz: ‘Not surprising parties with policy’ CDA leader Bontenbal wants to know from VVD member Yesilgöz how the current situation is now. “Two parties want to continue to leave their mark on many files. After all, it’s a campaign,” he says. Only support must be sought, because the two remaining coalition parties VVD and BBB only have 32 seats. The opposition has the majority.
Bontenbal hopes that the parties will make that search fair, so that other parties also get something to say. “How does the VVD deal with nitrogen and migration?” He wonders. Bontenbal hopes for “restraint” of the parties. “I give my confidence, but then the other side must also behave confidently.”
Yesilgöz wants to “not surprise and robbery with policy,” she says. The VVD leader is confident that the ministers of her party will look for sufficient support in the Chamber. Other parties of her may help in the coming months. “If Bontenbal has good people in his club, he can email me.”
2 hours ago
Yesilgöz and Van der Plas prior to the debate. Yesilgöz just said that they “convinced” is that the VVD and BBB can jointly put down a solid cabinet. “No matter how complicated the circumstances are.”
2 hours ago
VVD asks the cabinet to prepare for Boycot illegal settlements as penultimate it is the turn of VVD member Dilan Yesilgöz. It asks the government to prepare national legislation for an import ban of all illegal settlements. Last week the VVD voted against a motion for such a national measure, which therefore did not make a majority. The VVD wants to first try to set such a sanction at European level. But if that fails, national legislation must be prepared, according to Yesilgöz.
The PvdD is criticized: Ouwehand wonders whether the VVD really wants to do something or now pretends, and the possible action is just putting on the long job. Yesilgöz points out that the EU will be consulted in the coming days and that the plan will soon be discussed. But she agrees that there may not be a majority for such a boycott within the EU.
3 hours ago
Bontenbal: ‘The Netherlands needs a stable cabinet’ CDA leader Bontenbal wants to know whether outgoing Prime Minister Schoof has thought to keep the resignation of the NSC ministers on consideration. For example, there would have been more time to think about how to deal with this unprecedented political situation.
The CDA leader also wonders how the cabinet will look for support for next year’s budget. The remaining coalition of VVD and BBB has only 32 of the required 76 seats. “The Netherlands must have a stable cabinet as soon as possible,” says Bontenbal. He calls on the parties to conduct a substantive and neat campaign.
3 hours ago
SGP wants experienced drivers in new outgoing cabinet “how to proceed” is also a question that SGP leader Chris Stoffer raises. If it is up to his party, the Chamber will be constructively opposed to the thinned cabinet in the coming period.
Stoffer also has an idea about how the released places in the cabinet should be filled: that must become people “who have earned their spurs in public administration”. Political color is “subordinate” with regard to the SGP.
3 hours ago
ChristenUnie and D66 argue for the explorer following D66, ChristenUnie leader Mirjam Bikker also argues for an explorer. In the coming weeks, the outgoing cabinet must limit itself to the necessary, she says. After the elections, according to the CU, it must be explored how the outgoing cabinet can be further formed into a new cabinet. That is why her party is in favor of an explorer.
Bikker also calls the departure of NSC “not courageous, but out of place”. “Today we are staring at the remains of a lame cabinet and the controllability of our country is in danger.”
3 hours ago
Esther Ouwehand (Party for the Animals) and Nicolien van Vroonhoven (NSC) are debating the political situation that has arisen.
3 hours ago
Ja21 wants to pay more attention to domestic subjects ‘ Walking away does not solve anything, “says JA21 leader Joost Eerdmans about the departed foreign minister Veldkamp.” It is not in the national interest that we have a new political crisis. “
Eerdmans believes that it is only about Gaza and Israel lately “. Domestic themes such as housing shortage, immigration and the fact that women feel unsafe at night deserve more attention from politics.
3 hours ago
PvdD: ‘The Netherlands is financing a genocide’ PvdD leader Esther Ouwehand will discuss the situation in Gaza and the role of the Netherlands in her speaking time. The Netherlands is the fourth on the list of investors in Israel, she indicates. “We finance a genocide.”
She also points to help to Gazan children, who will not help the outgoing cabinet in the Netherlands, while she has asked for it. “We must hear from this cabinet that they think that it will be fine in the region. How many children have been helped in the meantime?” She asks the outgoing cabinet.
3 hours ago
Volt hopes for the new cabinet for Christmas “Every minute that we will continue to do with this, is a minute that we do not spend on choices for the country,” says Volt leader Laurens Dassen. “A minute in which we do not take measures against genocide in Gaza.” Dassen is craving for the elections, he says. “I want to see a cabinet on the landing before Christmas.”
3 hours ago
According to NSC, the cabinet was already acknowledged NSC that vacancies were created in the cabinet, but according to Van Vroonhoven it is not true that the country has now become unmanageable. “The cabinet was already outgoing, was already in injury time and had to look for majorities.”
If it is up to Van Vroonhoven, professional ministers must enter the new outgoing cabinet. According to NSC, the party color is “subordinate to quality and responsibility”.
3 hours ago
NSC points to the government program: ‘Action was needed’ Now the word is the party that left the cabinet on Friday: NSC. Group chairman Nicolien van Vroonhoven points out that agreements from the government program have not been met for some time, but that they now did not seem to apply to the Gaza issue. “The government program says:” Where human rights and the rule of law are seriously violated, […] will express the government and take action. “
That ‘their’ Minister Veldkamp did not get that space, according to NSC, made the party no other option than to leave the cabinet. “Then we have to draw a limit. No matter how painful that is.” She now asks the cabinet what actions they are now going to take against Israel.
3 hours ago
BBB mainly wants to continue and will reject other proposals BBB leader Caroline van der Plas now thinks it is mainly time to look ahead. “What happened has happened”. Van der Plas wants to “go back to work now and not wait until after the elections”. “BBB is on the bar and we reject all other proposals for that”. With this she refers, among other things, to D66’s proposal to ask a propeller to appoint a new cabinet with experienced drivers.
If she is asked by Laurens Dassen van Volt about BBB’s opinion about a national trade boycott against Israel, she refuses to respond to that. “I don’t want to turn it into a Gaza debate”.
3 hours ago
SP also does not support a motion of no confidence: ‘More chaos and hassle’ SP leader Dijk is fed up. “Since the formation there has been a hassle,” he says about the manners between PVV, VVD, NSC and BBB. And specifically against the departing NSC ministers: “You have made a gang of it.”
In the meantime, no problems are being solved. “Parents and children of the Surcharge Scandal and Groningen wait.” Measures and sanctions against Israel cannot be delayed, because there are daily deaths in Gaza.
How to proceed? Dijk has thought about it. “The SP has considered sending all Beewindmen home. But what more chaos? More hassle?” He looked at the options to bring out the elections on October 29, so that there might be a cabinet before Christmas. But that is impossible.
4 hours ago
D66 comes with a proposal for ‘Cabinet of National Unit’ D66 leader Rob Jetten indeed comes with his plan announced yesterday to replace the outgoing cabinet with a, as he calls it, ‘National Unity cabinet’. The Chamber must then appoint an explorer to find out what the national administration can temporarily take on for experienced drivers.
SGP leader Chris Stoffer wonders if it is also possible to ask VVD and BBB to supplement their cabinets team with people from outside. Jetten can really follow that suggestion. He wonders whether those parties will say “yes” to experienced drivers who have a distinct other party color. “I love to hear that.”
4 hours ago
Discussion in the Chamber about ‘inhumane’ call the cabinet A discussion arises about the words used in the Chamber. The third speaker on the list, Van Baarle, wondered “how inhumane a cabinet” can be if it falls over “measures to stop the genocide”. Those words are reason for Bosma chairman to intervene, who calls them “unpleasant”. For GL-PvdA that is again reason to intervene. Timmermans points out that Bosma van Baarle has already corrected twice, while Bosma’s party chairman Wilders was “completely empty” about asylum seekers.
Van Baarle points out that he feels limited in his words by Bosma. “What people think of that I take note of that, and I will continue to speak out against actions of Israel”. “And the latter is your right,” says Bosma, “but I said something about your wording.”
4 hours ago
PVV does not support no motion of no confidence The PVV will not support a possible motion of no confidence, says Wilders. He does not send the so -called Romp Kabinet, in which only the parties VVD and BBB are still located. “We deal with that in a business and mature way.”
“We support good proposals and not bad,” says Wilders. But he is no longer bound by the previously concluded main lines of agreement between PVV, VVD, NSC and BBB.
A little later in the debate, Baarle’s think leader indeed submits a motion of no confidence against the cabinet. This votes on that after the debate.
4 hours ago
Think leader of Baarle shows photos of killed Palestinian children
Think leader Van Baarle starts about the telephone conversation that Wilders recently had with Israeli Prime Minister Natanyahu. He wonders how he can support him, while tens of thousands of deaths have fallen in Gaza because of the attacks of the Israeli army.
Van Baarle holds photos of murdered and mutilated children and a babies up for Wilders. “Look at them,” he tells Wilders. “Do you have a shred of humanity?”
Chamber chairman Bosma (PVV) intervenes. “This is not a debate about Gaza,” he says. It must be about the political situation that has arisen after NSC has left the cabinet. But Wilders still replies: “I could have taken thirteen hundred pictures,” he says, referring to the terror attack of Hamas on October 7, 2023.
4 hours ago
On behalf of the outgoing cabinet, Prime Minister Dick Schoof, Deputy Prime Minister Sophie Hermans (VVD) and Deputy Prime Minister Mona Keijzer (BBB) present at the debate.
4 hours ago
Bikker (CU) disappointed in Wilders Bikker (CU) is disappointed in Wilders. Democracy is also making concessions and accountability, says Bikker. Wilders does not do that in her eyes. “That is disappointing.”
Wilders does not think he is responsible for the current situation. He even hopes to be the biggest again the next elections and gives a warning to the voters. “This is the last chance before it will definitely go wrong. And that chance is with my party.”
Bikker, who is visibly shaking ‘no’ with Wilders’ words, gives a disclaimer to the same voters. “Make sure you don’t give confidence to people who mess it up.” Bikker says that there were plenty of opportunities to take steps on asylum and migration. “I expected more statesmanship.”
4 hours ago
Wilders blames the cabinet ‘Chaos’ PVV leader Geert Wilders starts his contribution that this cabinet is “a chaos”. Wilders starts his contribution with these words more often. Now it seems somewhat crazy, because in the past two years his party has often been part of that chaos. The public gallery is therefore laughed.
He now blames NSC a lot. In his eyes, that party is the fault of all political misery. According to him, the PVV was “the most constructive party” of the old cabinet. Among other things because the PVV as the largest party gave up premiership and then did not agree to enter the Asylum Nood Act. “The Netherlands craves a new cabinet. As far as I’m concerned, that will be the Wilders 1 cabinet,” says Wilders.
5 hours ago
GL-PvdA will look constructively at the cabinet, but wants to take action for Gaza The first word is the largest opposition party GL-PvdA. Frans Timmermans emphasizes in his speaking text the fear that the country will stop now. His party will look constructively at the proposals from the cabinet in the coming period.
But, he warns, his party expects actively in the field of Gaza. “A minister has resigned, so the cabinet will have to take steps at that point. Only then can we support policy.” Genocide cannot be ignored as far as Timmermans is concerned. “
5 hours ago
Group chairmen conducting the word The debate will start like this. The word will be on all party leaders, as can be seen on the speaker list. That is quite common with debates that deal with things like this. Every party leader gets four minutes of speaking time.
5 hours ago
Officially it is still recess in the room. Yet the period in which the Chamber does not meet this summer is different from usual. It is more common that the MPs are recalled to the Chamber for important things during recess, but with today’s debate the counter for this recess is already three. Earlier, the House had to vote on state aid for shipbuilder Damen and there was debated about the situation in Gaza, which resulted in the departure of NSC from the cabinet.
5 hours ago
VVD and BBB have divided released places themselves, doubt in the room after the PVV left the cabinet in June, the places released were distributed by VVD, BBB and NSC. Even now, VVD and BBB want to take care of the released positions themselves. The puzzle for that was laid last night, although it is not yet known what the distribution is and who should become the new ministers and state secretaries.
There is doubt in the room. The new outgoing cabinet will soon be able to fall back on the 32 seats of VVD and BBB. Finding majorities for cabinet plans then becomes quite complicated.
5 hours ago
With the departure of NSC, another stone was removed from the already rickety structure of the Schoof cabinet. But nothing (yet) changes for the Israel race. You can read more about that here.
5 hours ago
Chamber debates about political situation after departure NSC the House of Representatives Will Debate the ‘Political Situation that has arisen’ from 10.15 am, as the departure of NSC from the Cabinet is called in the house agenda.
NSC Minister Caspar Veldkamp (Foreign Affairs) Decided to Step Down on Friday after He could not agree on additional Measures Against Israel with the Caretaker Cabinet. The rest of the NSC Flotilla Followed Him.
Good morning and welcome to our live blog! Here we will keep you informed of the debate in the house of representatives about the political situation that has aris after the departure of NSC from the Caretaker Cabinet.
18 minutes ago
Shoved sees No Room for Reconciliation Attempt with NSC Bikker (CU), Like D66 and SGP, had Hoped for a Reconciliation Attempt with NSC. Otherwise, she fears even more chaos. “This is very turbulent water with a small ship.”
But sheaf does not think that is an option, although he also sees that the situation has not Become Easier. The Outgoing Prime Minister Says That Attempts To Persuade The Remoining NSC Administrators to Reverse Their Decision Came To Nothing. “I felt no room at all, not just to take some time to think about it.”
32 minutes ago
Shoved and Deputy Prime Minister Sophie Hermans (VVD). Deputy Prime Minister Mona Keijzer is present on Behalf of the BBB.
34 minutes ago
Shoved felt ‘no room at all’ for reconciliation attempt the question of whether Schoof Could Have Kept the Cabinet Together on Friday Is Being Asked A Lot. But accordance to sheaf, there was “no room at all” for that. “I had to conclude that the nsc’s choice was final and that there was no room for reconsideration,” Says shoved.
The discussions that followed in the days that followed did not change sheaf’s view of the situation. “My conclusion is that the line I informed the house of representatives last night was the only and fastest way to get a few more things done.” In That Letter, written that vvd and bbb will Themselves look for replacements for the vacant NSC cabinet posts. Hey also sees Nothing in Appointing an Explorer, Although It is up to the house to decide on this.
40 minutes AGO
Shoved Announces Distribution of MINISTRIES SCHOOF Announces The Distribution of the NSC Portfolios. The VVD Will Receive Foreign Affairs, Public Health and Social Affairs. BBB Will Receive Education and Internal Affairs. The Names Will Follow at A Later Time, Says The Prime Minister. “They will be announced as soon as possible.” This also applies to the distribution and filling of the state secretariats.
47 minutes ago
Schoof: ‘Cabinet Exercises Restraint’ Schoof repeats the Words he has spoken a lot in recent days: The Departure of NSC is “More than regrettable”. Hey also Indicates that the cabinet must now look for majorities per subject and per debate.
That was already the case due to the departure of PVV in June, but the departure of NSC Has Further Narrowwed the Basis of the Cabinet. “In that sense, The Cabinet Exercises Restroint,” Says Schoof. Accordance to him, Important Files, Such as Nitrogen, Housing and Asylum, Should not come to a standstill.
53 minutes AGO
The Debate Has Started Again! The Floor is Now with Outgoing Prime Minister Dick Schoof, who will Answer the Questions Asked by the Members of Parliament.
1 hour ago
The Debate is now adjourned for lunch. The Floor Will Be Given to the Caretaker Cabinet AT 2.30 pm.
1 hour ago
Timmermans: “Yesilgöz’s words are far from her actions” “The VVD Has Appearances Against It,” Says Timmermans (GL-PvdA) to Yesilgöz. Because Althegh Yesilgöz Says That Her Views Are Close to Those of Other Parties That Want to Tackle Israel or Help the Gazans, The VVD has so far always voted against motions that actually because to do something.
Like the Temporary Medical Evacuations of SeriOutly Injured or Sick Gazan Children to Help Them in the Netherlands. Or an arms embargo against Israel. And also to declare the entire netanyahu government persona non grata. “The VVD Voted Against Everything,” Says Timmermans. “Yesilgöz’s words are far from her actions. And I’m saying it nicely.” But Yesilgöz Insists: “The Parties are QUITE Close Together.”
2 hours ago
VVD Against Explorer, but open to experienced administrators Yesilgöz, as her party has indicated before, sees little in the D66 plan to appoint an explorer. An Explorer would go delay and ultimately say that we have to do it with the parties that have signed the coalition agreement, is the reasons.
She Thinks It is Important That Experienced Administrators Come to the Cabinet on Behalf of the VVD and BBB. “If Mr. Jetten Says:” I have good people “. Call them!”
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Much Unclear About Israel Position VVD There is Much to Do About Where VVD stands Exactly in Relation to Additional Sanctions Against Israel. Last week, The Party Voted Against A D66 Motion Calling for “Legis Lation to Be Put In Place As Soon As Possible to Prosibit The Import, Sale And Promotion of Goods And Services Originating from Illegal Settlements in Occupied Palestinian Territory in The Justthlands.” With the support of the vvd, this call would have a majority and the cabinet would have to come up with additional sanctions.
But the vvd came with its own motion. It suggested Taking Measures “in a European context or with a coalition of Like-minded Countries”. With the addition of “working simultaneously on national legislation as an alternative in case A European Agreement Fails to Materialise”. This motion also did not get a majority.
These seem to be the same calls, but the parties that supported the d66 proposal find the VVD plan too Meagre. “A Band-Aid,” Said van Vroonhoven about it. “We would like an import ban on all illegal settlements,” Said Yesilgöz.
The Question is Whether there will now be a new motion that can count on a majority, or Whether the impasse will remain whorbery parties only say they want to take additional national sanctions agast Israel, but there is no call from the house is count on a majority.
2 hours ago
Yesilgöz: ‘Don’t surprise parties with policy’ CDA Leader Bontenbal Wantsbal Wants to Know from VVD Member Yesilgöz How to Process with the Current Situation. “Two Parties because to continuously to make their mark on many issues. After all, it is a campaign,” he says. However, Support Must Be Sought, because the Two Remoining Coalition Parties VVD and BBB Only Have 32 Seats. The opposition has the majority.
Bontenbal Hopes That the Parties Will Conduct That Search Fairly, So That Other Parties Will also Have A Say. “How is the vvd going to deal with this in the areas of nitrogen and migration?” Bontenbal Hopes for “RESTRUIT” from the parties. “I give my trust, but then the other side must also Behave in a Trustworthy Manner.”
Yesilgöz does not want to “Surprise and Overhelm the opposition with policy,” She says. The VVD Leader is confident that the administrators of her party look for sufficient support in the house of representatives. Other Parties are allowed to help her in the coming months. “If Bontenbal has good people in his club, he can email me.”
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Yesilgöz and van der Plas prior to the debate. Yesilgöz Just Said That She is “Convinced” That