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The debate is over. Because it is a committee debate, no motions can be submitted. After a committee debate, a short continuation is always planned in the plenary hall, where this is allowed. But there is now a recess, so that moment will only take place after that is over. Voting will also only take place then.
Cabinet Not Planning to Recognize Palestinian State Committee Chair de Vries Asks The Minister to Make His Last Points, because the Debate Should Have Been on 6:00 pm. Veldkamp Concludes by Saying that the Cabinet Ultimately Strives for a Palestinian State, But Does Not Think It is the Right Time to Recognize It Yet.
He adds that the cabinet does not intend to evacuate kured Palestinians from the Gaza Strip, because it was prevIOUSly decided that it is better if that happens in the region. Among Others, the SP Asked About this Earlier.
SP and PvdD Emphasize Cabinet Obligations SP and Party for the Animals Refer to the Report of the Advisory Committee on International Law Issues (CAVV), which States That The Netherlands Must Do More to Prevent Genocide. Accordance to the critical parties, The Cabinet is not fulfilling the Legal Obligations it has to do everything it could.
Veldkamp Again Lists The Measures The Cabinet Has Already Tasks, But The Critical Parties are not satisfied with that.
Cabinet does not because to restrict trade with illegal Settlements yet on questions from Boswijk (CDA) about Possible National Sanctions, Such as sanctioning the entire Israeli Government and Restricting Trade with illegal settlements, Minister of Points’s to Brussels. He believes that both sanctions must first be discussed there. The Caretaker Cabinet is Therefore Not Yet Planning to Take These Measures On Its Own.
Veldkamp has not goths far in his argument yet. He is Receiving Many Questions from Critical Parties.
Critical Part of Parliament Not Happy with Minister’s Answers Annoyance is Palpable the Left-Wing Part of Parliament, which is the minister to do more to improve the situation in Gaza and Take Measures Against Israel. Minister Veldkamp Continues to Emphasize which Measures The Netherlands Has Tasks in recent Times, and Says That This Is Already More Than was Done Before.
Debate Letterly Suspended After Commotion The Debate was Letterly Suspended after Someone on the Public Gallery Shouted Something at the Minister and the Members Of Parliament, Duration the Debate Between Dassen and Veldkamp. It appears that the visitor has leg removed. The Debate Has Resumed.
Veldkamp sees that Measures are insufficient Dassen (Volt) Wondher the Measures that the Cabinet Has Tasks are doing enough to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza. Veldkamp Says That It is “Insufficient”, but that accordance to him is everything that is done by one country. The keeps hammering on the fact that Measures must be tasks at European Level, because they then Exert More Pressure.
Dassen then Wonders Why the Minister does not because to take more Measures, if Veldkamp sees that the Measures are insufficient. Veldkamp repeats The Measures That Were Tasks Last Week, and that the Netherlands is Hammering on the Need to Suspend the Trade Agreement with Israel in the European Context.
European Action Most Effective Accordance to Veldkamp Veldkamp Mentions That European Action is the Most Effective Way to Put Pressure on Israel. In recently week there has bone little movement at European Level, so-left-wing parties in the debate are wondering Whether Those Measures Will Come in Time. There is no Unanimity for Sanctions. Among Others, D66 and GroenLinks-Pvda Therefore Want Earlier National Measures from the Cabinet.
Veldkamp Responds to this that the Netherlands itelf has tasks the decision to impose an entry ban against two extremist Israeli Ministers, because it was not Possible at European Level.
‘Hamas Terror is not a free pass for Israel’ Veldkamp Emphasizes How Catastrophic The Situation is in Gaza. “A scenario of Famine is UNFOLDING,” He says. Aid Supplies Are Ready Outside the Border of Gaza, But they are Being Blocked by Israel. Veldkamp also Recognizes That. “Or Course, Hamas Bears a Heavy Responsibility for the Situation in Gaza, But at the Same Time I Emphasize That This Does Not Absolve Israel of its Bbligation Under International Law.”
The Cabinet Calls on All Parties, Including Hamas, to Adhere to International Humanitarian Law. “Hamas Terror is not a free pass for Israel,” he says.
Two Parties Needed for a Ceasefire a Ceasefire Remains of Paramount Importance, Veldkamp States. That must then be used for the delivery of humanitarian aid and the liberation of the hostages. Hamas uses the hostages as a “trump card” in the negotiations for a ceasefire, says veldkamp. Those negotiations have now stalled.
“I do see that not only Israel but also Hamas Bears a significant co-response for the Lack of a Ceasefire,” the minister Says.
The Debate Continues. The Floor is Now with Outgoing Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp.
Because the first part of the debate ran QUITE Late, it has leg agreed that the interruptions from the members of parliament may only last 40 seconds. Accordance to Committee Chair Aukje de Vries, The Debate Will Really Be about AT 6:30 pm.
All Members of Parliament Have Made Their Contribution and We Have Thus Reached the End of the First Part of the Debate. Ja21 Leader Joost Eerdmans is not present.
There is now a suspension. In Half An Hour, Outgoing Minister Caspar Veldkamp Will Respond to the Questions from Parliament. The Debate is Originally Scheduled Until 6:00 pm, But Will Probable Run A Bit Late.
FVD Deviates from Pro-Israel Stance FvD Leader Thierry Baudet Calls It “Unacceptable How Israel is managing in Gaza”. Normally the FvD Has a Pro-Israel Stance, But Now the Party Wants More Pressure to Be Exerted on the Country. Among Other Things, because the Israeli Action Isolates The Country Itelf from the International Community, but also because it threatens to a new Large-Scale Refugee Flow Tows the Netherlands, Accordance to Baudet.
Member of Parliament Kati Piri (GL-PvdA) Directly herself in the debate Against Eric van der Burg (VVD).
PVV stands firmly Behind Israel Raymond de Roon (PVV) Does Not Express Any Criticism of Israel in His Argument. “The PVV stands behind Israel. No Sanctions,” Says the Member of Parliament. The Roon Sees The Total Destruction of Hamas As The Only Solution. The Member of Parliament does not dwell on the famine in Gaza Either.
NSC PRESSURE ON TURKEY AND QATAR NSC Supports the Extra Steps That Have Been Announced, Says Member of Parliament Isa Kahraman. “We do not rule out support for further Measures,” he says, if Israel does nothing to improve the situation in Gaza. He does emphasize that for nsc it is not enough to only hold Israel Responsible for the Suffering in Gaza. “How does the international community want to get hamas out of gaza?”
Kahraman also horses to know from the minister what pressure can be exerted on Countries Such as turkey and qatar, which sacrifice to high-ranking Hamas Members.
We have arrived at the last speakers. The Floor is now with the PVV.
Members of Parliament Irritated about the Attitude of VVD that van der Burg only points to Brussels Leads to Irritation Among a Part of Parliament. Paternotte (D66) Points Out, For Example, That the VVD HAS Imposed Sanctions Against Russia and Is Leading the Way When It Comes to Support For Ukraine, But is Making itsself Very Small Towards Israel.
“The VVD Says here ‘Everything must be done to stop this’. But then you come with no concrete Measure that has any chance of success to be introduced in the coming week”, Accordrated Piri (GL-PVDA).
VVD Hides Behind Brussels The Argument of Eric van der Burg (VVD) is in line with the contributions of ChristenUnie and BBB. The VVD Supports The Current Measures That The Outgoing Cabinet HAS Tasks, But Feels much sympathy for Israel and Does Not Want to Proceed with More National Sanctions.
Van der Burg Advocates for “Effective Measures” That Improve the Humanitarian Situation in Gaza. He States That The Proposals of Left-Wing Parties Do Not Work. “I do not believe that if the minister slams his fist on the table with a motion dobbe (Member of Parliament of the SP, ed.) Netanyahu Listens.”
The VVD Thinks That The Netherlands Should Take Action in EU context. The Vision of van der Burg meets with Frustration Among Other Members of Parliament. They find that van der burg make the Netherlands Too Small and That the VVD is evading the Taking of Measures in This Way.
Building Cidi in the Hague defaced the Building of the Center for Information and Documentation Israel (CIDI) in the Center of the Hague Has Been Defaced. There is a red substance over the Wall, by And Windows. Flowers have also leg thrown against the facade. No Texts have leg written on the building. A ketchup Bottle Has Been left on the ground.
Earlier Today, the House of Representatives Building was also defaced.
CDA Receives Criticism From BBB, SGP, NSC and CU AS Expected, Boswijk Receives Criticism from the BBB, The SGP, NSC and CU. They find it objectionable that the cda is making a turn toards the recognition of the Palestinian State. Accordance to them, it is not a Christian democratic point of view and is not feasible at the moment, as Boswijk himself also says.
“We have concluded that more is expected of us,” Says Boswijk about that. “We have bone sleeping for generations, letting too much aptly on Whether Israel would make it happen (The Two-State Solution, ed.). In The Meantime, we can conclude that the Netanyahu Government is Doing Everything Is Why State Solution Solution Solution. Now. “
CDA Wants The Netherlands to Participate in the Recognition Process of Palestine The CDA Wants The Netherlands to Join Diplomatic Steps of Other Countries Towards Recognition of Palestine. Member of Parliament Derk Boswijk Calls That Step “A Justified Diplomatic Instrument To Get The Peace Process Moving Again”. It is a striking turn of the cda, the traditional pro-Israel party is the first center party to make this call.
For the cda, there are a few conditions attached to this. This should not be done on its own by the Netherlands, but in Consultation with Like-Minded Countries Within the EU. Also, Among Other Things, Hamas Must Be Excluded and Free Elections Must Be Held.
GL-PVDA Condemns That the Cabinet Says No to Medical Treatments A Topic That is also discussed in the debate is the evacuation of seriously ill children from Gaza to the Netherlands for Medical Treatment. A Number of Other European Countries Are Already Doing This, But The Netherlands is Saying No For The Time Being. “How is it that the cabinet has not given a home to any request to date?”, Kati Piri (GL-PvdA) Wonders Aloud.
Grinwis (Cu) Critical or Netanyahu Government ChristenUnie Member of Parliament Pieter Grinwis States That his party is connected to Israel, Among Other Things Becoaus of Religion. “But you can tell friends the truth,” he says. He is Therefore Critical of the Attitude of the Netanyahu Government, which Violates Human Rights.
He does ask ask minister Veldkamp what the facts are surrounding the distribution of food, which is ready at the borders of Gaza. On that remark he recoveres criticism from Teunissen (PvdD), Who States That It Israel That Is Blocking Aid to Gaza.
Furthermore, The ChristenUnie Pleads for Sufficient Food in Gaza, The Defeat of Hamas and the Release of Hostages. In Addition, Grinwis Asks The Cabinet to Do More Against Division in the Netherlands, Mainly the Growing Anti-Semitism Accordination to Him.
Question from Vermeer (BBB) About Food Aid Causes Annoyance Members of Parliament from D66, SP, PvdD and Volt Express Annoyance Towards BBB Member Henk Vermeer. In His Argument, The Member of Parliament Wonders Why Not Enough Food Aid is Entering Gaza. He does not deny that there is a famine, but wonders Whether the Large Shortage of Food is only caused by the actions of Israel. There Could also be a problem with the distribution, accordance to Vermeer himself Says Israel.
The Members of Parliament Point Vermeer to All the Reports and Debates That Have Already Appeared and Been Conducted on this. Among Others, The Un, Amnesty and International Aid Organizations State That Israel itself is Blocking Aid.
The Building of the House of Representatives in The Hague is Smeared with a Red Liquid. There was a Small demonstration in front of the entrance of the house of representatives at the beginning of the debate. Two people have leg arrested in the process, but a police spokesman could not immediately say whether they were arrested in connection with the smaring.
A Little Further on, On The Bezuidenhoutseweg, Several Hundred People Are Demonstrating Against The Dutch Policy Regarding the Violence of Israel in the Gaza Strip. They Wear Red Clothing, Palestinian Flags and Protest Signs.
Also former top official Herman Tjeenk Willink is present at the debate.
SGP Fears That Alliance with Israel is at Stake SGP Member of Parliament Diederik van Dijk States That Three Things Are Crucial for his Party. They want the release of the hostages, that Hamas is Eliminated and That “Royal” Humanitarian Aid Enters Gaza. The Therefore Supports The Plan for AirDrops, which are QUITE controversial.
The Wonders Whether the Measures That The Cabinet is Taking Against Israel Do Not Ensure That “Hamas Leans Back And Does Not Want To Take A Step Towards Peace”. Van Dijk Believes that the Sanctions Against Israel also Put a Decades-Long Alliance at Stake.
Dassen: ‘Don’t come up with that we are ahead’ Volt Leader Laurens Dassen also Expresses Considerable Criticism of the Outgoing Cabinet. “Don’t come up with that the Netherlands is Already Doing Enough, that we are ahead, that we have no influence,” He says in the direction of Minister Caspar Veldkamp (Foreign Affairs).
Volt, Like the Other Left-Wing Parties That Have Already Spoken, Demands More Action.
The Public Gallery in The Groen van Prinstererzaal is full. There are many interested people for this debate. Prior to the debate, there was Already a demonstration outside the house of representatives building.
Dobbe Wants the Netherlands to also help with medical evacuations sarah dobbe of the sp wonders when the red line line has been reached for the dutch cabinet. The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has the plan to occupy the entire gaza strip. “How much time does the minister think he still has to prevent genocide?” She Wonders. “The Netherlands Has the Obligation to Do Everything it can, but the Netherlands is not doing everything it can.”
Dobbe, Like the Previous Parties, Wants More Measures Against Israel. She was the Netherlands to No Longer Buy Israeli Weapons, to Impose a Trade Ban on Israeli Settlements and Occupied Territories, Sanctions Against More Israeli Officials and the Recognition of the Palestinian State.
In Addition, The Member of Parliament Calls on the Cabinet to Help with Medical Evacuations in Gaza, for Thousands of People who Urgently Need Medical Assistance.
Teunissen Finds The Reaction of VVD ‘Gross Disgrace’ VVD Member Eric van der Burg Criticizes Teunissen because the PvdD Member of Parliament Calls The Food Droppings A “Sham Solution”. “I would still be a quiet lawyer for them to take place, because every kilo is one,” Said van der Burg.
His Reaction Leads to Anger at Teunissen. “Stop Taking the Party for the Animals to Task. You have blocked every effective Measure here. We have legs working on this for two years. And then the vvd is now me to task that I Warn Against a dangery, Largely Dangerous Measure. I Things.” “
Outgoing Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp Listens to the Input of the Members of Parliament.
Teunissen (PvdD) Calls Measures ‘Sham Movements’ PvdD Member of Parliament Christine Teunissen also believes that the Cabinet “Is on the Wrong Side of History”. She Calls The Measures Tasks “Sham Movements” And, Like the Speakers Before Her, Wants, Among Other Things, A Total Arms Embargo and the Recognition of Palestine.
Like Paternotte, Teunissen also direct herself to vvd, nsc and ChristenUnie. Accordance to her, these parties are blocking extra measures.
Van Baarle Calls Minister Not Worth a Snap of the Fingers Think Leader Stephan van Baarle also the Dutch Government to Do More. The Netherlands can do a lot, but it Doesn’tn’tn’t, he says. Like Paternotte, Van Baarle Calls for, Among Other Things, Economic Sanctions Against Israel, A Complete Arms Embargo Against Israel and the Recognition of the Palestinian State.
Furthermore, he thinks that the cabinet is Looking Away from a genocide in Gaza. “People are dying, children are dying. Do something then.” To outgoing Foreign Minister Casper Veldkamp He says: “You are not worth a snap of the fingers. Saying that you are a Frontrunner, while much more needs to be done.”
Paternotte Against VVD, NSC, SGP and CU: “Wake up” “We are threatening to Become spectators to an ethnic cleansing, a genocide. Or we alreaty are,” Paternotte Begins. D66 Wants The Outgoing Cabinet to Do Much More. Paternotte Thinks that the Netherlands “Concrete Still Does Almost Nothing”.
The Wants To Sanction the Entire Israeli Government, Completely Stop the Delivery of Weapons, Restrict Trade With Illegal Settlements Through A Law, Suspend the Entire Eu Treaty with Israel and Recognize The Palestinian State.
Paternotte direct himself to VVD, NSC, SGP and ChristenUnie. “Wake up,” he says in the direction of these parties.
The debate is about to start. D66 Member of Parliament Jan Paternotte will be the first to speak.
Cards have already bone Dalt it will not be a very exciting debate, because all parties have already determined their position. Pro-Israel Parties Such as PVV and SGP Think That the Outgoing Cabinet is Treating Israel Too Hostile. Government Party BBB also Fits in This Camp.
Left-Wing and Progressive Opposition Parties (GL-PvdA, D66, SP, PvdD, Think and Volt) because More Sanctions, But they do not have a majority in Parliament. Moreover, They Cannot Submit Proposals Today to Adjust the Policy.
Government Parties VVD and NSC Support the Current Course of the Cabinet. They also Emphasize That the Cabinet is Among The Frontrunners in the EU. The Chance is Therefore Small That New Measures Will Be Announced Today.
The Netherlands Will also Drop Food via Air Last Week, The Outgoing Cabinet Announced that the Netherlands, Like Other Countries, Will Drop Food via Air. Meanwhile, The Cabinet is Gradually Increasing the Pressure on Israel. Especiate Since the PVV is no Longer Part of the Government.
Minister Veldkamp Announced More than a week ago that two extremist ministers are no longer welcom in the Netherlands. The Arms Export has also Been Further Restricted. In this article you can read more about the Measures. For More Sanctions, The Focus is Mainly on Brussels, but this is not Possible due to the Division Among the EU Member States.
Debate Not in The Plenary Hall, No Motions for the Debate, Not The Entire Parliament Returns from Recess; Only the members of parliament who deal with foreign affairs. The debate also does not take place in the Large Plenary Hall, but in a narrower committee room. As a result, there is no fixed order of speakers known yet. That is determined on the base of who sits in the room first.
Also, the members of parliament may not submit motions (proposals that will be voted on later). After a committee debate, a short continuation is always planned in the plenary hall, where this is allowed. This moment will only take place after the recess. Voting will also only take place then.
Parliament Still Interrupts The Recess a Number of Members of Parliament Are Returning from Recess Today to Debate The Situation in Gaza. GL-Pvda and D66 Already Wanted a Debate Earlier This Summer, but there was no majority for the proposal at that time. Only after Caspar Veldkamp, Outgoing Minister of Foreign Affairs, Announced New Measures was there Sufficient Support for a Debate.